The habs getting robbed worse than the Antwerp diamond heist by Minnesota.

To be very clear, total value aside, because I'm sure everyone will say "that's way too much value", Minnesota isn't trading Yurov unless there is one singular better piece coming back that comprises 100% of total value of the return

Minnesota sees Yurov as the future 1C here, and one of the primary pieces that they hope entices Kaprizov to extend. It would take a better center prospect to move him. Matheson as the centerpiece with a bunch of other super mediocre/average prospects isn't even close to what Minnesota needs to consider trading Yurov.

When you find yourself still adding more and more pieces to one side of a trade to make it more fair, it's a bad trade.

Ok, fair point, and I agree. BUT, if Minnesota were to conclude they can't re-sign Kaprisov, then this trade is very enticing. I'm not sure any team would offer a better C prospect.
And by the way, this is why I don't understand why they want to move Rossi. He's going to be a great C.

There is a lot of value going to Minny here. Just because Minny has the best player in the trade, it doesn't discount the solid Dcore coming back the other way.

As a Habs fan I'm not sure I like this trade.

No it's not, because if Kaprizov leaves, we're still going to want our dynamic 1C prospect more than we want what's in this package


They will only move Rossi if they can find a similar piece (age, upside) with more size, or an upgrade with more size/speed/skill. Most fans don't agree with trading Rossi in a vacuum, but if they really could get an upgrade, or a similar piece with more size, then go for it.

That post was in reference to the KJ trade as well.

What are you talking about? Yurov is the best center in that trade. What does Kaprizov signing or not signing have to do with Yurov?

If I offer you 4 2nd round picks and Carson Lambos for the 5th overall pick, are you pulling the trigger? Cause that’s how this trade looks to a Minnesota fan.

Omg dude. You're an overdramatic tool. Get off the website if you're so emotional.

Nice projection.

Curious to know which part of my post was so dramatic. Yurov being the best center in the trade or trying to show you how bad the proposal looks from a non habs fan perspective?

Read my original post properly. I never said Yurov *wasn't* the best C prospect in the trade. The other person had mentioned Minnesota would want a better C prospect than Yurov, and all I said is I don't see another team offering a *better* prospect than *Yurov*
If you think Mtls offer here is worth 4 2d round picks, sorry, you're a moron. If you're being overdramatic to prove a point, than no one will listen to you.

Thought you were talking about Beck.

I wouldn’t pay a 1st for a single one of those pieces (excluding the 1st). The fact that Matheson is considered the center piece is abysmal.

I tell you what though, I’ll give you Lambos+O’Rourke+Hunt+Chisholm+Beckman for Reinbacher. How many mediocre pieces does it take, amirite?

The disrespect Matheson gets here is unbelievable

He doesn’t fit the core of the Wild. I’m sorry if that hurts your feelings.

Feelings ? It's a website to discuss hockey. And you're being ridiculous or simply clueless about certain hockey players

It's because your fanbase overrates him while simultaneously trying to move him in every thread. He's an average middle pair OFD, but I have straight up seen Canadiens fans tell people he's a #1, or a top pair guy at least, because he scored 60 points (largely on the PP). Put him on a real team with real top pairing defensemen and he's not touching those numbers again.

Stop shoving him down everyone's throat as if he's some universally highly valued top pair defenseman, and start treating him like the player he is, and you won't see as much disrespect towards him.

His TOI says he's a no. 1 defenseman

Yeah, that proves my point. He was playing 18 minutes on Pittsburgh and Florida before coming to Montreal. He's getting 25 minutes on Montreal because you guys don't have anything better. If you guys had real top pairing defensemen he'd be playing middle pair minutes again.

Montreal had the most one goal game losses in the league and it wasn't due to the defense it was because the forward group couldn't score

Montreal was tied for 5th highest goals against per game, your offense and your defense both suck. That's why you're drafting 5th again next month.

Listen dude, you can keep him if he’s so great.

The Wild already have 11 players that are over 30. They need to be adding to two age groups:

25-27 year olds: Kaprizov, Eriksson Ek, Gustavsson

20-23 year olds: Faber, Boldy, Rossi, Ohgren, Khusnutdinov, Yurov

The Wild need to add to those groups, not detract from them.

You specifically asked for Yurov, whom most Wild fans look at as the future 1C. Not only that, but trading Yurov would almost assuredly piss off Kaprizov and push him towards not re-signing. Not getting a similar level player back for him would be catastrophic.

Ask yourself if you’d rather have 5th overall or the package you offered above.

Why's the devils drafting 10th ? And Why's their GM willing to move the pick ?

I'm not a Devils fan, I don't give a **** about the Devils. Whataboutisms aren't going to get you anywhere.

Yes, we could keep him and most people in montreal will agree with keeping him, but montreal are in a rebuild and if they have the option to sell on a player with an all time high value they should seriously consider doing so.

Relax, it's a hockey discussion, no need to get heated

And i got mixed up with a different thread. Matheson is a top pair D