why is there going a first going both ways? like you can't be serious here lol

gotta be bait

Pick swaps are real despite the fact they don’t happen often.

Also, it’s only half bait… I know it’s not a good post hence the title.

ok but this is a trade where you're buying a first line winger, not swapping picks.....

I don't see the Canes trading Necas. They have the cap space and at least on the defensive end...they have 2 really good prospects coming up.

Swapping picks is only one aspect of the trade. Necas is a first line player on the Blackhawks, but probably on 2nd or 3rd line of a contender. The rumor is that the Canes are not giving Necas what he wants, and so naturally that leads to a trade.

Are you on cocaine its a simple question really because who thinks its a good idea where we a giving up a top 6 forward to aswell give up our first for ABSOLUTELY NOBODY did the SA information leak into the water in chicago or is there a reason why you don’t know how nhl trades work

Mention of SA. Post dismissed. Thanks for playing.

Drop the first going to Chicago and I still dont think the would canes do it. Have to imagine they can get more quality in return.

Don’t know nor really care about the quality of the prospects, but 2 LHD prospects (Canes already have a logjam there) and a C prospect (another logjam, more-so at the NHL level) really isn’t that interesting.

Why do i keep seeing all these Sabres paying to dump Skinner trades?
Did their GM say something about getting him outta town ?

CHI should NOT have to give a compensatory pick in a Skinner dump, let alone such a high pick as CHI's own 2nd. $9M x 3 years should cost every bit of BUF's 1st.



Honestly, I am not sure if it stems from any official statements, but I doubt Adams would say anything like this publicly, anyway. It does seem to be a trending opinion, though. He has a $9M contract with three years left and has not been playing well at all, and so lots of BUF fans have expressed interest in dumping his contract if they can convince him to waive his full NMC. I think they have also determined that if they are going to pay a big price to move a contract, this is the year to do it with the lower end talent in this draft and their already overflowing prospect pool.

You’re mischaracterizing his play though
He hasn’t been bad, he’s just overpaid
Sabres aren’t looking to move him
It’s not happening

That is all that matters. In comparison to his contract, he has been playing very poorly. That is just the truth. He is not worth anything close to a $9M aav, which makes him a negative asset. Also, CHI aren't the ones who started this. Go tell BUF fans this, if you believe it so firmly. They are the originators of dumping him and using their 1st as payment. No one is taking on 3 years of a $9m cap hit for nothing, though.

Actually, ALL THAT MATTERS, is that the Sabres aren’t looking to move Skinner. And a handful of fans on here doesn’t change that. He’s going nowhere. The end

BUF isn't giving you Skinner AND a 1st.

We would do:

Skinner <> 2nd.

The idea that the Sabres need to give stuff up for Skinner is absurd. He's a 30+ goal scorer.

Skinner was more than a point per game player last year.

He's 64th in the league among all Fs the past 3 years, with 191 points.

He's 20th in the league in 5v5 points over the past 3 years.

He's t-13th in 5v5 goals with Robertson.

He's got 92 goals in those 3 years, putting him 44th in the league (one more than Marner, btw).

The idea that we need to PAY to move him is so out of line with reality.

People like to rip on his contract, and yea, it's too much.....usually you pay around $1mm for every point.

But, he's still one of the top scorers in the league.

If BUF doesn't want him, they either:

1) Trade him for assets
2) Buy him out

They aren't trading him + giving away our 1st unless we are getting something substantial back.

HE IS A 30+ GOAL SCORER.

Keep repeating that in your head.

Over the past 3 years, Skinner, 5v5:

t-13th in goals among all Fs
20th among all Fs in points

Skinner: 65G 70A
Tage: 65G 65A

Are we trading Tage + 1st for a 2nd next???

Ok smart guy. This is all hypothetical. CHI is one of few teams that can realistically take on a contract like that. So, IN A HYPOTHETICAL SKINNER DUMP, IF they do want to move hime, AND he is willing to waive his nmc, THIS is what it will cost. See, I can type in caps too. Why are you so up in arms about this anyway, nucks fan?

I’m not up in arms
Just don’t like dumb, annoying hypotheticals
Especially ones that aren’t gonna happen

Might as well be arguing what u guys would trade Bedard for
Lol

Well, this site is ALL hypotheticals. So you might be in the wrong place.

An aging veteran forward that is VERY overpaid, is not even in the same ballpark of hypotheticals as trading a rookie generational talent.

Nope
ABURD is absurd
And hypocriticals that are reasonable make for MUCH better discussion than this nonsense

lol. Ok, "Not up in arms" guy.

It isn't nonsense. There is no reason for CHI to target Skinner unless they are being paid to take his contract. And once again, tell this to BUF fans since they are the ones who proposed this in the first place weeks ago.

Your own favorite team just paid CHI a 2nd round pick to take on two years of a $2.65M cap hit. What do you think is going to happen when a team wants to move 3 YEARS of a cap hit that is more than 3 TIMES that amount at a $9M aav? If BUF wants to move him and he is willing to accept a trade, this is what it costs. Even the cap dump calculator on Puckpedia recommends the equivalent value of a 6th overall pick to move his contract, which is significantly more valuable than the 11th pick, and that is without a team (CHI in this instance) sending ANYTHING back the other way. With CHI including their own 2nd round pick (34th overall), that severely reduces the value they are receiving to take his contract.

That isn't an absurd hypothetical and it isn't an absurd price for dumping that kind of cap and term, but your attitude is certainly absurd. Maybe there is some team out there willing to take him for less, or even pay for him (I highly doubt it), but as one of the few teams who ACTUALLY can take on such a large cap hit and is in the middle of a rebuild, it will not be CHI that does so. If teams want cap relief, then they can pay for it.

Go back to twitter or reddit if you want to have conversations with other meat heads who all pat each other on the back for their poorly conceived ideas of how teams, trades, and cap dumps work.

Sabres aren’t getting rid of Skinner
Best u come to grips w that

I have come to grips with that. In fact, I was the first person to say that after BUF FANS POSTED THESE SKINNER DUMPS FIRST. Skinner isn't waiving for a rebuilding team after going through struggles in CAR and then essentially two rebuilds in BUF. But the fact remains that no one is taking $9M x 3 years for nothing. So, again, if they do want to move him and he accepts a trade, this is what it costs. Quit being a dink. Go mind your own business.

Cool, continue arguing with thin air about what he’ll hypothetically cost to move even though he isn’t being moved

Makes tons of sense