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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 1:31 a.m.
Thread: Couple of Ideas
Seattle is gunning for a return to the playoffs next season, and given how critical Larsson is to the team and the difficulty they'd have replacing him, I doubt the Kraken are going to seriously entertain trading him anytime soon. This offer wouldn't motivate them anyway. The total value isn't bad in my opinion, but I think a plausible trade package would need more quality, less quantity.

FWIW Seattle's top goalie prospect is Niklas Kokko, who will likely be part of Coachella Valley's AHL tandem next season. Kokko isn't an Askarov level prospect, but he's quite good and has exceeded his draft status. He's probably in a similar tier as Bjarnason right now, but I'd put Kokko a notch higher just because he's closer to being NHL ready than Bjarnason and still putting up strong numbers, and goalie prospects can be quite volatile and have a longer development curve.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 8:52 p.m.
Thread: Marner to Washington State
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>🎯

At this point I'm not even sure if a Marner trade will actually materialize. Wanted to explore a different avenue instead of the same old ACGM crap. If / when Seattle walks away with one of this drafts top defenseman, they are going to be a genuine contender for so many years. Curious to see what the Kraken do this offseason, I'm a very big fan of Bylsma and his systems. Coachella was such a great team under his leadership. Plus, Seattle's roster construction just makes them a super fun team to watch regardless.

Big fan of your analysis on the situation, thanks for discussing!</div></div>

Of course, anytime! I'm excited to see what this offseason has in store for the Kraken and the league at large. I preferred Bylsma to the other names being floated around, mostly due to his work with Seattle's young players on the Firebirds more than anything; those guys will be tasked with making an impact with the big club sooner rather than later. We'll see how Bylsma's tenure goes; I'm hopeful he gets more consistent buy-in from the players, the lack of which down the stretch was Hakstol's downfall ahead of any tactical issues. I think this offseason the Kraken will first hammer out deals for Beniers and Tolvanen, and then add more goalscoring in some form. Wright and Evans will likely step up to full-time roles next year too.

I am curious to see what Toronto does. I agree that I don't really see a Marner trade happening this offseason. With his NMC, cap hit, and contract situation, I think it'll be really hard to find a deal that makes sense for the Leafs, the team acquiring Marner, and Marner himself. My prediction is that Marner sticks around through the offseason and at least starts next season as a Maple Leaf.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 8:19 p.m.
Thread: Marner to Washington State
I see you have done your homework. Kudos on that and on making a trade idea that value wise I think is pretty even and not horribly lopsided in either direction (like so many on here are). Ultimately whether such a deal goes through would depend on Marner and his NMC, and whether Seattle would be comfortable making a move like this for a player that initially at least wouldn't be guaranteed to stay past a year. The Kraken's prospect pool could also use that top-pairing-ceiling defenseman, and your evaluation of Nyman is spot on; he's probably their best prospect behind Wright at this point. So on the Kraken's end it comes down to a question of how they want to build their roster; keep their prospect pool intact and growing and pursue avenues to add scoring that don't involve depleting their roster and farm too significantly, or aggressively pursue a blockbuster deal for a higher-wattage star like Marner. Time will tell which path they choose.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 12:28 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 8:46 p.m.
Thread: Deep Sea Disco
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cooliny</b></div><div>Is there a chance Gourde could be moved? What would his value be with 50% retention?</div></div>

I think it's a possibility, though a deal like that would likely be more of a deadline trade if Seattle's out of the playoffs again as opposed to an offseason one. I imagine the Kraken would like to have Gourde on the team at least to start the season, to see if he can bounce back and to take some of the tougher defensive matchups so Wright doesn't have to right out of the gate.

As for his value in such a trade, that would depend at least in part on how he performs to start 2024-25. Right now I'd put it in a similar range to Wennberg's when he was dealt to the Rangers, a 2nd rounder plus a 3rd or 4th rounder.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 4:10 p.m.
Thread: Bylsma SZN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Too much for Borgen. Maybe a 4th, but a 2nd is REALLY high</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>logmacinnis2</b></div><div>I would meet in the middle on a third. Borgen is an underrated defenseman, especially solid on the defensive side. Not a ton of offensive talent, but can shut down guys very well for the money he makes.</div></div>

I'd argue Borgen is easily worth a second and probably more. He doesn't have the name recognition, but Borgen has quietly become a rock solid defensive RHD who can play second pairing minutes. On the Kraken he's been one half of their shutdown pairing with Oleksiak, so he's not exactly being sheltered. The Kraken appear to value him quite highly given how they gave him his first real shot at an NHL role, and he's rewarded their faith and then some to this point. Because of how important he's become to their defense, I don't see Seattle trading Borgen anytime soon, not for a late second, and <em>certainly</em> not for a fourth. If the Kraken add to their blueline in free agency, Dumoulin would be the one to go, not Borgen.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 3:25 p.m.
Thread: Sarosly good team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TOR</b></div><div>Florida doesn’t have enough money to sign all of there UFAs.

Robertson scored 60 goals in the OHL a few years ago. Jarnkrok is a solid 3rd line centre. Timmins was a high second round pick that’s signed to a good contract, also a right shot d man. David Kampf just played unreal for Czechs in the world hockey championship. He also is a solid penalty killer. They all can get you back a 2nd rounder no problem</div></div>

Just about every NHL forward had impressive junior stats at some point or another. Robertson's the only player of that group who even has a chance of fetching a second in a trade, but that's only because of the potential he's displayed at the NHL level and not because of anything he did 6-7 years ago. FWIW I don't see him getting the 40th overall pick from Seattle.

Calling Järnkrok a center is a bit misleading, he's much more of a winger than a center. Kämpf is good on the PK for sure, but his offense leads a lot to be desired. He may have been good at the WHC, but it's such a small sample size and thus won't really have much of an impact on NHL GMs' evaluations of him. Both he and Järnkrok are known quantities at this point; decent bottom-six fowards but nothing more. The issue is there are many players like them available in free agency every year, and teams with needs in their bottom six can just sign a free agent or two instead of giving up draft capital to the Leafs for Järnkrok or Kämpf.

As for Timmins, draft pedigree stops mattering at a certain point, and a player's development and NHL production becomes the determining factor for their value. Timmins is well past that point now, he was drafted six years ago. For instance, Kole Lind was drafted right after him, but no one's giving the Kraken a second rounder for him just because he was a high second rounder way back when. Timmins at this point is a RHD who has shown offensive flashes but can't defend well and struggles to stay healthy. For most teams, he'd be a 7th defenseman, and teams generally don't give up second round picks for 7th defensemen.

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Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 9:25 p.m.
Thread: If it was up to me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NoImRight</b></div><div>Their RHD that has 1 year left and could potentially walk anyways? Hard to know what Larsson's plans are. Nothing on this site is 100% but this is simply a possibility</div></div>

Marner also has one year left on his deal and could walk after this season. Any team trying to trade for him would be doing so with an eye towards improving their current team first and foremost. In the Kraken's case, losing such an important part of their defense in Larsson would undercut that.

As for Larsson's future in the PNW, there's a lot of ways his situation could go. Ron Francis has proven his willingness to hand out mid-season extensions, so one for Larsson is a distinct possibility. Barring that, the Kraken would likely hold onto him as an own rental if they were in a playoff push, or if they were out of the postseason picture again he'd fetch a pretty penny in a deadline deal. Regardless, I don't see Larsson going anywhere anytime soon. That's how I'm viewing Larsson and the Kraken, but as you said, nothing's 100% and we'll see.