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Jco5ta5

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Forum: NHL TradesMay 24 at 3:34 p.m.
Thread: (CHI/NYI) - 2024 1st (TBL), 2024 2nd (LAK), 2024 2nd (VAN) for 2024 1st (NYI), 2024 2nd (NYI)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>This is a weird trade. Why move up only 2 spots in the 1st round and 4 spots in the 2nd round for a 2nd round pick, this early on. Considering no one is off the draft board yet. By picks 18-20 you may be drafting the same guy. Odd. This seems like a very clear win for New York.</div></div>

Because quality is better than quantity.

CHI doesn't care about giving up a 2nd, they still have 7 of them in the next 3 years! They just want to draft as high as possible.

I hope MTL does the same thing with WPG 1st (26th). I thought CHI, NYI and SJ would be good partners for trading down and was kinda right. I wonder if now the price might get up to close a similar deal with SJ.
Forum: NHL TradesMay 24 at 1:41 p.m.
Thread: (CHI/NYI) - 2024 1st (TBL), 2024 2nd (LAK), 2024 2nd (VAN) for 2024 1st (NYI), 2024 2nd (NYI)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>toque</b></div><div>I wonder if Chicago is trying to move up further or if its simply their Top Prospects list ends at #18...</div></div>

Is it that...or maybe they don't think post #50...there's much to get? Makes it easier to trade #61?

As a Hawks fan...I'm good with it. We have (had) a ton of 2nds. It's expensive to move up in the 1st. Sound of Hockey and Puckedia give the edge to the Isles, but barely. By a 5th I believe.

Kyle Davidson has been open about last year he tried to move up in the draft to get Oliver Moore higher, but he had no one willing to trade with. This is likely the reason why this move happened today vs draft day. He found someone willing so he took it.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2023/6/28/23777849/blackhawks-oliver-moore-nhl-draft-pick-kyle-davidson-trades-second-round-preview-caleb-jones


***EDIT*** I'd also add that the Hawks can likely get another 2nd round pick by taking on another contract/cap...so Let's just see how this all plays out.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17 at 5:39 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13 at 7:56 p.m.
Thread: Shopping in New York
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jco5ta5</b></div><div>I posed that exact trade. #10 for #20 + #34 and NJD fans universally said no. I think in reality this isn't a great draft and after the first roughly 8 players, the difference between 10 and 20 is probably equal and then on top of it you get a 34th pick which will likely be a guy ranked in the 20s that has been overlooked.</div></div>

Yeah I think youd have to offer 20+34+54. The Geekie trade was 27 and two 2nds for 11. The thing with draft pick trades is of course fans want to keep their higher pick, but its entirely dependent on how each team views the draft class. If NJD for example doesnt like the top of this class, the cost of swapping from 10 to 20 is pretty cut and dry. its just about finding that team on draft day.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13 at 2:46 p.m.