SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

MTL get better

Created by: SLAFGOATSKY
Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 15, 2024
Published: May 15, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,200,000
4$2,500,000
1$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$5,500,000
Trades
1.
ANA
  1. Harris, Jordan
  2. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (VAN)
2.
MTL
    Future considerations
    3.
    MTL
    1. 2024 2nd round pick (FLA)
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2024
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the FLA
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MIN
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the WSH
    2025
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the CGY
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the DET
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    2026
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    25$83,500,000$79,393,750$1,022,500$4,670,000$4,106,250

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,850,000$7,850,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    C
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
    $5,750,000$5,750,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,362,500$3,362,500
    C, RW
    RFA - 2
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $835,000$835,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,900,000$2,900,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,700,000$1,700,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,875,000$4,875,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,150,000$3,150,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$750,000$750K)
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $890,000$890,000
    G
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LD/RD
    RFA
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $875,000$875,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $812,500$812,500
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $800,000$800,000
    RW, LW
    RFA
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $897,500$897,500
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $766,667$766,667
    RD
    UFA - 1

    Embed Code

    • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
    • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

    Text-Embed

    Click to Highlight
    May 15 at 3:01 p.m.
    #1
    Future Ducks legend
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2022
    Posts: 10,465
    Likes: 7,267
    If you swap Harris for Kovacevic, maybe Barron, you're in the ballpark.
    OldNYIfan liked this.
    May 15 at 3:03 p.m.
    #2
    Bcarlo25
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 22,012
    Likes: 7,236
    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    If you swap Harris for Kovacevic, maybe Barron, you're in the ballpark.


    that pick alone is too much for zegras, and i'm no montreal fan.
    May 15 at 3:16 p.m.
    #3
    Future Ducks legend
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2022
    Posts: 10,465
    Likes: 7,267
    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    that pick alone is too much for zegras, and i'm no montreal fan.


    On what possible grounds? Zegras is a top 6 player on any team in the league, redraft his class today and he goes top 5, and Anaheim is under no pressure to move him. It's a weak draft, you hope the player taken at 5 this year is as good as Zegras already is. On top of that he just turned 23 a month and a half ago, he's just off his ELC.

    Anaheims the one taking the risk here because the guy taken at 5 has a ceiling of Zegras but could also bust.
    SLAFGOATSKY and OldNYIfan liked this.
    May 15 at 3:17 p.m.
    #4
    Thread Starter
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Nov. 2023
    Posts: 33
    Likes: 20
    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    If you swap Harris for Kovacevic, maybe Barron, you're in the ballpark.


    That's fine. I think 2/3 of Kovacevic, Harris and Barron are leaving anyways. Whoever leaves in this trade doesn't really mather. If it's Barron tho I think the pick is a 4th or a 5th rounder.
    OldNYIfan liked this.
    May 15 at 3:18 p.m.
    #5
    Bcarlo25
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 22,012
    Likes: 7,236
    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    On what possible grounds? Zegras is a top 6 player on any team in the league, redraft his class today and he goes top 5, and Anaheim is under no pressure to move him. It's a weak draft, you hope the player taken at 5 this year is as good as Zegras already is. On top of that he just turned 23 a month and a half ago, he's just off his ELC.

    Anaheims the one taking the risk here because the guy taken at 5 has a ceiling of Zegras but could also bust.


    i don't think zegras is good. he's very one dimensional, stinks away from the puck, and that one-dimension just isn't that good. 65 points and 23 goals as career highs doesn't really move the needle for me given how bad other areas of his game are. i don't think he helps you win.
    May 15 at 3:21 p.m.
    #6
    Thread Starter
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Nov. 2023
    Posts: 33
    Likes: 20
    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    On what possible grounds? Zegras is a top 6 player on any team in the league, redraft his class today and he goes top 5, and Anaheim is under no pressure to move him. It's a weak draft, you hope the player taken at 5 this year is as good as Zegras already is. On top of that he just turned 23 a month and a half ago, he's just off his ELC.

    Anaheims the one taking the risk here because the guy taken at 5 has a ceiling of Zegras but could also bust.


    Plus Montreal need a forward and besides if Lindstrom is still there (which he probably won't be), the best available is Iginla which is fine but a bit of a reach at 5th overall. I'd much rather have Zegras who can make an impact right now.
    OldNYIfan liked this.
    May 15 at 3:34 p.m.
    #7
    Future Ducks legend
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2022
    Posts: 10,465
    Likes: 7,267
    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    i don't think zegras is good. he's very one dimensional, stinks away from the puck, and that one-dimension just isn't that good. 65 points and 23 goals as career highs doesn't really move the needle for me given how bad other areas of his game are. i don't think he helps you win.


    He did that in his sophomore season which beats out almost every current superstar forward in the league. Nathan MacKinnon had a worse sophomore season, EP40 was comparable, Eichel was comparable. You're acting like 65 points is all Zegras is ever going to be when he did that his second year in the league, on a team that was significantly worse than his freshman campaign, in spite of the fact that most players suffer a sophomore slump. The belief that's he's not good is completely unfounded.
    OldNYIfan liked this.
    May 15 at 3:36 p.m.
    #8
    Bcarlo25
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 22,012
    Likes: 7,236
    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    He did that in his sophomore season which beats out almost every current superstar forward in the league. Nathan MacKinnon had a worse sophomore season, EP40 was comparable, Eichel was comparable. You're acting like 65 points is all Zegras is ever going to be when he did that his second year in the league, on a team that was significantly worse than his freshman campaign, in spite of the fact that most players suffer a sophomore slump. The belief that's he's not good is completely unfounded.


    right, so you're ignoring about 90% of what i said. 65 points is fine. 65 points is nice. 65 points can be great.....but he's a one trick pony. if the one trick isn't that good, the player isn't that good. He's an extremely flawed player and I don't think he helps you win. I could see him playing like a phil kessel in pittsburgh role and being successful...third line and PP specialist. other than that, i think he's kind of useless.
    May 15 at 3:38 p.m.
    #9
    Future Ducks legend
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2022
    Posts: 10,465
    Likes: 7,267
    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    right, so you're ignoring about 90% of what i said. 65 points is fine. 65 points is nice. 65 points can be great.....but he's a one trick pony. if the one trick isn't that good, the player isn't that good. He's an extremely flawed player and I don't think he helps you win. I could see him playing like a phil kessel in pittsburgh role and being successful...third line and PP specialist. other than that, i think he's kind of useless.


    And you're completely missing the point, 65 points was a taster, not his ceiling, he's got PPG ability written all over him. Pastranak was 0.5 PPG his first two seasons in the league, players take time to develop, and Zegras has been developing his defensive game. This whole "one trick pony" crap is buying into media crap and not actually bothering to watch him play.
    May 15 at 3:51 p.m.
    #10
    Bcarlo25
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 22,012
    Likes: 7,236
    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    And you're completely missing the point, 65 points was a taster, not his ceiling, he's got PPG ability written all over him. Pastranak was 0.5 PPG his first two seasons in the league, players take time to develop, and Zegras has been developing his defensive game. This whole "one trick pony" crap is buying into media crap and not actually bothering to watch him play.


    and if he's a point per game player, i don't think he's very good.

    everything else he does sucks.
    May 15 at 4:14 p.m.
    #11
    Once a Kings Fan Too
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2018
    Posts: 41,285
    Likes: 26,022
    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    i don't think zegras is good. he's very one dimensional, stinks away from the puck, and that one-dimension just isn't that good. 65 points and 23 goals as career highs doesn't really move the needle for me given how bad other areas of his game are. i don't think he helps you win.

    Then Cole Caufield, who is the perfect comparable if there ever was such a thing as a comparable, isn't any good, either.

    It's utterly absurd to talk about "career highs" for someone who is 23 and just had a season completely derailed by two different serious injuries. Brad Marchand turned 28 toward the end of the season in which he first cracked 60 points. In his age-23 year, Nico Hischier scored 60 points for the first time (after playing almost 300 games), a level Zegras has reached twice (in 180).

    You can make the argument that pure one-dimensional scorers like Cole Caufield don't "help" you win, but line drivers like Zegras whose primary scoring ability is via assists are essential to success.
    SLAFGOATSKY liked this.
    May 15 at 4:21 p.m.
    #12
    Bcarlo25
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 22,012
    Likes: 7,236
    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Then Cole Caufield, who is the perfect comparable if there ever was such a thing as a comparable, isn't any good, either.

    It's utterly absurd to talk about "career highs" for someone who is 23 and just had a season completely derailed by two different serious injuries. Brad Marchand turned 28 toward the end of the season in which he first cracked 60 points. In his age-23 year, Nico Hischier scored 60 points for the first time (after playing almost 300 games), a level Zegras has reached twice (in 180).

    You can make the argument that pure one-dimensional scorers like Cole Caufield don't "help" you win, but line drivers like Zegras whose primary scoring ability is via assists are essential to success.


    if you had actually read my posts, you would see it wasn't really about career highs. it was about how bad zegras is at the other parts of the game. he stinks.

    i'm not very high on caufield either, but he certainly has a more well rounded game than zegras.
    May 15 at 4:48 p.m.
    #13
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Feb. 2024
    Posts: 127
    Likes: 32
    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    if you had actually read my posts, you would see it wasn't really about career highs. it was about how bad zegras is at the other parts of the game. he stinks.

    i'm not very high on caufield either, but he certainly has a more well rounded game than zegras.


    You very clearly didn't watch Zegras play this year.
    May 20 at 9:57 a.m.
    #14
    Bcarlo25
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 22,012
    Likes: 7,236
    Quoting: knowerofpuck
    You very clearly didn't watch Zegras play this year.


    i did. i'm just unbiased.

    he sucks.
    May 20 at 2:17 p.m.
    #15
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Feb. 2024
    Posts: 127
    Likes: 32
    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    i did. i'm just unbiased.

    he sucks.


    Haha, you just don't know what you're talking about then. All good, much easier that way.
    May 20 at 2:33 p.m.
    #16
    Bcarlo25
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 22,012
    Likes: 7,236
    Quoting: knowerofpuck
    Haha, you just don't know what you're talking about then. All good, much easier that way.


    one dimensional. he's the same player he was at BU. non factor in the NHL. but hey he gets some cool goals so folks will always overrate him.
     
    Reply
    To create a post please Login or Register
    Question:
    Options:
    Add Option
    Submit Poll